DAIL DEBATE

 

Private Motion Standing Orders

DÁIL ÉIREANN

 

Sitting Date:  
10rd February 2004

Sitting Time:
21.00

 

Mr. Kelleher: I welcome the opportunity to discuss the issue of Dáil reform and I welcome the proposals outlined by the Government Chief Whip. However, I am disappointed by the narrowness of the Fine Gael motion in encouraging the Taoiseach to be present in the House on Thursdays. However, given the competent performance of the Taoiseach on Dáil questions and during Leaders' Questions, the Opposition would be better off if he were not present because he makes them look very silly most of the time. If he were present more often, they would look even worse than they currently do.

On the issue of Dáil reform and the Chief Whip's proposals, I hope the other parties will regard them favourably and support them. I wish to refer to a number of issues. The first is that this is not just a legislative but a representative Chamber. It behaves all of us to defend the work of Deputies in constituencies. Too often we kowtow to people who like to undermine the work of a Deputy in his constituency. It is an important part of representative democracy that Deputies are available to meet constituents not only as individuals but as groups. If we claim to represent the public, it is important that we are able to meet and interact with those people, hear their views and concerns, and raise them in Parliament when an opportunity arises.

I generally welcome the topical debate announcement by the Chief Whip because this will be an important instrument in allowing Deputies to raise issues of importance in their constituencies or at national level. I hope all the other parties will support this. We have the farcical situation of Deputies raising matters under Standing Order 31 every day. I understand the frustration of Opposition Deputies in trying to raise issues and being ruled out of order. We must move to a situation where a Deputy can raise an issue, it can be responded to in a forthright manner and there can be interaction between the Deputy raising the issue and the responsible Minister. That is an important proposal. I urge the Opposition to look on this positively.

On the question of longer sitting hours, we must accept that Deputies have duties outside Dáil Éireann to their constituencies. I welcome longer sitting hours which will increase parliamentary time to 30 hours a week. That will enable us to push through more legislation and to have longer debates in which more people can take part. One of the complaints we hear, especially in Fianna Fáil because it is such a large party, is that backbenchers often have difficulty in getting time to speak.

Mr. Stagg: That is because the Government guillotines all the Bills.

Mr. Kelleher: Often they must share time and have only two or three minutes. However, members of smaller parties receive more time to debate issues. Perhaps we should examine the possibility of introducing a system whereby more time would be given to larger parties in debates. That would be only fair in a democracy.

On the issue of guillotines, in my short term as a Whip I have heard much bluff and bluster from the Opposition and manual votes being called after the results of electronic voting have been announced. That undermines the credibility of the new electronic voting system that we put in place to ensure more expeditious voting. I urge the Opposition to be constructive rather than obstructive to ensure the smooth running of votes called in the House. I understand that dividing the House is part and parcel of democracy, but surely the results of electronic voting as announced should be accepted as the de facto result.

We have discussed the issue of Dáil reform for a very long time. Dáil Deputies have a duty to ensure that their work rate is exposed to the public. Often when we are attacked from outside we collectively cannibalise each other in the House rather than defending the profession and outlining what we do as public representatives in our constituencies and, more importantly, in Parliament.

Committees have been grossly under-reported. I would welcome any proposal of the Chief Whip's which would ensure that the committees are more proactive and that there was more reporting of the workings of committees. They do great work. They can interview deputations, and address and outline concerns. Members of other committees can also attend meetings and listen to the views of deputations and form opinions. That is something that is under-reported. If we implement the Chief Whip's proposals and establish a website with the possibility of linking into the various committees, it would be very beneficial.

I urge the Opposition to engage in proactive and constructive debate on these Dáil reform proposals and welcome the broad thrust of them. I hope we can have a more efficient Parliament in the years ahead.